He has put a photograph of AJM40's yellow top container on the court screen and is reading from the trial transcript about a scratch mark visible on the clear plastic of the container. She also said the foreign hairs could have come to be there while Ciara was out in Claremont. The exhibits were not photographed after the collection, as it was not required at the time. After each fingernail was cut, it was placed into a yellow top container being held by police forensic officer Adam McCulloch. "It does tend to suggest the selection process could be random," he said, adding Mr Bagdonavicius' evidence of the process during trial was "patently incorrect". But several witnesses gave evidence that they heard a series of high-pitched screams in the Mosman Park area, where the young receptionist had been heading, in the early hours on the night she vanished from Claremont. He has noted there were 10 other cases of another person's DNA being recovered from a Macro-related exhibit, and that of those contamination events, the amount of DNA recovered that matches Mr Edwards' profile was the smallest amount. The transcript can be downloaded up to 7 times within those 30 days. "It calls into question the completeness of the continuity trail of the exhibit, that's as high as I can take it," Mr Yovich said. Once we return the completed form to you, submit your transcript order and attach the completed form. He was sacked from Pathwest in 2016 after being accused of cutting corners during testing between 2008 and 2014. He has questioned if the DNA belonged to the accused, and if it did, how it came to be in the container, adding he will go into detail on this later. Fibre evidence formed a significant part of the prosecution's case in relation to the alleged murders of both Ms Rimmer and Ms Glennon. He is summarising the notes made by the UK forensic scientists describing the appearance of each yellow top container and its contents. Edwards had one previous conviction, for a 1990 assault on a female social worker at Hollywood Hospital where he was working on the phone system. International fibre expert Ray Palmer told the court the evidence strongly suggested both Ms Rimmer and Ms Glennon had been in Edwards's car prior to their deaths. But as late as the final day of sittings, parts of its argument relating to motive and patterns of homicides in Perth were discarded, distilling the case down to four key elements. Click on the “Unofficial Transcript” link under the “Student” tab. Without any physical evidence, the case against Edwards for the murder of Ms Spiers was always going to be more difficult to prove. 500 E. Ninth Street He is referring to the moment in the video when mortuary manager Robert Macdermid is remarking, "I can't cut it, too hard Laurie, I can't get it Laurie", which refers to trying to cut Ciara's left thumbnail, which was already partly torn, with a large pair of scissors. Hold an official paper copy in the Registrar’s Office for you to pick up during business hours. "DNA from the accused was found nowhere else on Ms Glennon and her DNA was found nowhere else on the accused. "It's one of those things where there is an absence of a provable source beyond what's already been explored and there's an absence of documentation that would enable us to say for sure we don't know.". Propensity is all about whether a person is likely to behave in a particular way based on what has happened before. Mr Yovich is now looking at the container, and has said the defence's position is "the nature, cause or origins of those marks are ultimately unknown". "We don't say AJM40 underwent DNA testing in 1997 or 2003 ... because it's inevitable the documentation would have been created ... but it's the lack of examination records, records of the forensic decisions made about them, documentation of the appearance and the packaging," Mr Yovich said. "How might the accused's DNA have transferred to Ms Glennon's thumb by a scratching event other than attaching to her nail? "There's certainly no overt evidence of any such source. Allow sufficient time for us to process your form. During his evidence, Mr Bagdonavicius said he never opened the pot. Through his cross-examination of a series of witnesses, Mr Yovich was able to show other instances of contamination in the case, including several times when the DNA of scientists working on the case was found on samples and one instance where the DNA of a victim of a totally unrelated crime had contaminated a Claremont sample. If you attended CMC before 1985, allow extra time for processing. This was the name given by police to a group of women who had been out at night in the Claremont area in the years of the women's disappearances and had reported similar experiences. "The same scissors are used for the first three fingers on the left hand (AJM40, AJM41, AJM42), and then Mr Macdermid changes [to smaller] scissors for the last two nails on the left hand and the nails on the right," Mr Yovich said.